The psychology of moving goes far beyond logistics—it’s a profound emotional journey of loss, adaptation, and self-discovery. In this inspiring conversation, psychotherapist and leadership coach Saunders Moore unpacks how relocation can unsettle identity, trigger grief-like brain responses, and test resilience, especially after life-altering events like Hurricane Helene’s floods in Asheville, North Carolina. Through personal insight and professional expertise, she shares how to process the emotional weight of moving, build a supportive community in unfamiliar places, and use self-compassion as a tool for healing. With practical tips and mindset shifts, Saunders helps you not just adjust, but truly thrive in your new chapter.
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The Psychology Of Moving: How To Heal, Adapt, And Thrive In A New Place
With Psychotherapist And Leadership Coach, Saunders Moore
Welcome to the Moving Tips and Tricks podcast, everyone. I am here with a friend of mine. Her name is Saunders Moore. She is a highly skilled leadership coach with over two decades of experience, combining her expertise as an ICF-trained executive coach, licensed psychotherapist, and strategic advisor to help clients achieve personal and professional growth. Driven by values of connection, adventure, and empathy, Saunders tailors her approach to support individuals and organizations in developing communication skills, self-compassion, and embracing growth through challenges.
With a diverse background in therapeutic approaches and executive coaching, Saunders focuses on individual and group development, incorporating psychology principles and a strengths-based approach to facilitate mindset shifts and transformational change. I need mindset shifts because I am tripping over my world, but she works with leaders to build confidence, raise self-awareness, and change thinking patterns to enhance team culture and bottom-line results. Saunders has extensive experience in coaching individual leaders, as well as facilitating group and team building programs within organizations, creating more effective and collaborative workplace environments.
Having lived and worked in the USA, Ecuador, and Spain, she brings a wealth of cultural understanding and adaptability to her consulting practice. Holding a master’s in counseling psychology and certified in various assessment tools such as the team management profile, the Hogan suite of psychometrics, and mindfulness-based stress reduction, which we all need. Saunders offers comprehensive support to her clients. In addition to her work as a leadership coach, she maintains a private practice as a licensed psychotherapist, providing counseling services to individuals residing in California and North Carolina.
Saunders, welcome to the show.
Thank you so much.
All that to be said, Saunders is my friend, and we have a mutual friend from when I lived in San Francisco, and she’s moved many times like me. She even lived in Asheville during the flood. We have lots and lots to talk about when it comes to a lot of different areas. Tell us first where you grew up, and how this whole moving journey started.
I was born in New York City. When I was about nine, my family relocated to the Boston area, the suburbs of Massachusetts. Both of my parents had moved for professional reasons from their hometowns to New York City to strike out. I think that was a little bit in my nature and in the family system of being willing to uproot for opportunities, for a change of experience. Because my parents also love adventure and travel, we were exposed to different places domestically and internationally growing up. It was just part of the family ethos of willingness to get out in the world and see what’s happening.
When was your first cross-country move?
Cross-Country Moves & The Beauty Of The USA
My first cross-country move came a couple of years after college. I went to school in Virginia, so in a different part of the country than where I’d grown up. I had family down there. I had lived abroad a bit and came back. I was working in Washington, DC, and it was the 2008 recession. With that, I took advantage of that opportunity to go explore something else and moved to California, to the San Francisco area, where I met the friend who connected us, and it went from there. It was a grand adventure.
I drove cross-country with two girlfriends, and we really made an adventure of it, trying to stop in all of these landscapes. It gave me such an appreciation for the breadth and the diversity that’s here. When you fly on a plane, it’s a little bit different because you don’t get to experience everything that you’re passing through, and driving through it just really helped me appreciate the vastness of this country.
Colleen is our mutual friend, and she is just one of those people, like she’s a school teacher, like you just want to hug her, and like hang out with her. She’s just got such good energy and vibes all the time. When I moved to North Carolina, she’s like, “My friend Saunders lives in Asheville. We should meet up when I’m in town.” We ended up going on this amazing hike. There were snakes and all kinds of crazy stuff, but we just had such a wonderful day.
I remember thinking, “There are real, live poisonous stakes that we could get bitten by.” You guys hiked masterfully. I think I had gym shoes on. I was an unskilled hiker. We spent the day together, and then we’ve been friends since. Those are the connections you make when you live all over the country. I think that that’s something to be said for like the adaptability that you get to learn when you have to make new friends in new places.
Building Community Amidst Challenges: Tribe Creation And Natural Disasters
I think there is having to move and I experienced this with you, a willingness to stretch outside your social networks to welcome in people who are also moving and in transition. I remember meeting you and thinking like, “Here’s somebody else who has also made this migration from California to North Carolina. I want to stay connected with her.” There’s a willingness to create your tribe where you are.
I feel like once you meet those people who have that same vibe as you, and like, you can talk for hours. We’ll get on the phone, and Saunders and I will just start talking. The next thing you know, we’re like, “It’s been like an hour and a half.” I’m like, “I need to have you on the podcast. You’re so smart, and we have so many great conversations.” You moved twice in one year, like last year, like I did. Can we talk about that adventure a little bit? Was it three times? It was twice in Asheville and then once to California, right?
Yeah. Also named that I’ve been a renter for the past five years. Some of that has impacted my moving. I think in January we had some high waters in Asheville, and the number of the same year we had hurricane Helene, so massive flooding and just a trying time. This is 8 or 9 months later, and a lot of parts were at that point as well. Back here in California, I found an outpost with friends and was going back and forth. Having the reprieve of being able to turn on a faucet and take a warm shower, and then going back to Asheville and boiling hot water on the stove so that I could take a camp shower, as we called it. There was a lot of moving for me in the past year, and I know you as well. I left my car at your house.
That was such a crazy time because when I was moving, because of Hurricane Helene, they canceled my closing. It was such a crazy time. When you have a closing, they have everything to the penny from like everything from your HOA fees to your taxes, like everything. It cannot even be off $11. You had parked your car in my driveway because you were where you were in Boston or something? I remember you were like on some trip.
Community Resilience In Crisis
I was moving. My closing got pushed. It was like a course. It was just a crazy time. Nobody knew what to do. We didn’t even get touched in Charlotte with the hurricane. I don’t think my plastic plants in the backyard even flew down. It was like such a nothing experience for us yet. You guys had torrential rains. You had crazy flooding that wiped out half of some towns. People don’t realize how quickly things can change, like things can change in a week or a day. That community, there’s been such an upheaval and such a migration. You don’t have a sense of who, or you almost want to take a survey of who’s moved as a result of the hurricane.
For as many natural disasters as we’ve had in this country, even just Kerrville a couple of weeks ago, as of this recording in Texas. You would think we would have better systems to predict and like better systems to like to track our migration. I guess that’s the freedom of America, right? You don’t get tracked where you’re going and things, but I mean, that’s the thing is you don’t know. I feel like if we had those numbers and that data, it would be better predictors of what could happen or should happen after a natural disaster. Hopefully, they learned some really good lessons. I think that the town is going to be rebuilding, but it’s in such a pocket within North Carolina that even getting materials there is not easy.
That was a big part of what was happening in those first few weeks, and that caused delays in getting emergency services there sooner because nobody knew which roads were open. A lot of the bridges that folks don’t know this area of the country very well are nestled in the Blue Ridge and Appalachian Mountains. There are a lot of valleys and mountains, and the roads carved through the mountains, and a lot of rivers. What happened was the rivers rose, and the earth couldn’t contain the amount of rain that we got in a short period of time.
A lot of roads were washed away, and that caused a delay in trying to figure out how to get things to people. People were resourceful. Some gathered logs and chainsaws and built bridges. Other people were bringing donkeys and horses with resources into towns. It was old school. It was really amazing to see the resourcefulness of people acting in the moment of crisis.
It was amazing to see the resourcefulness of people activating in the moment of crisis. Share on XThis is not funny at all, but it was funny at the time. My friend Piper was coming in town, and I was like, “We have to go to Asheville because it’s beautiful.” What was the little town that we went to in the cabin when we had like the Dateline experience?
That was, I think, near Chimney Rock.
Yeah, it was the Chimney Rock area. Airbnb said black mountain. I thought, “Great, we’re in Black Mountain.” It was actually like at the edge. It was like an hour. It was so far. We got out there. The cabin itself, like whoever the photographer was, they were spectacular photographers, because we got in there. We’re like, “This is like we’re like camping with a roof,” and then we get out there. At one point in time, Saunders and I, was it you?
I think Piper went and took a nap, and it was you and me in the hot tub, right? When we heard the scream. We were scared from the get-go. We were. It was in the middle of nowhere. It was like a Dateline episode. We’re sitting in the hot tub and all of a sudden we hear this like blood-curdling scream and we’re like, “Oh my God.” We’re like, “We didn’t hear anything else.” Maybe no one got murdered. Maybe somebody just got scared, or there was a spider or something.
We didn’t know what to do. Five minutes later, we hear what sounds like a bear, like rumbling down whatever the mountainside thing that we were on. We were like, “Do we go in the house? Is there a bear?” You grab like a flashlight or something, you’re like, “Let’s go see.” I’m like, “I’m not going over there. What? No way, Jose.” You’re like, “Let’s do it.” We didn’t find anything, but we still don’t know what happened, and we were like, we’re just going to stay in the house.
I think we thought about leaving, but it was late in the evening already.
We couldn’t get a hold of the landlords because there was something else that we couldn’t, I don’t know. There were no towels for us to take a shower after we used the hot tub. Those were all the towels. It was just crappy, and I think they were for sale, and I don’t know. It was just a funny experience because I liked talking it up, but I think that was one of the areas that got washed away during the floods. I don’t know.
It was, yeah. A lot of those areas are still very much rebuilding. That whole restaurant and bar area that we went to along the river was washed away.
That was insane. It was just one of those like moments when I saw it on the news, that I was like, “We were just there like six months before.” It was just really sad.
I feel for so many. Everybody had such empathy from Asheville to LA about the sense of loss that the community might be experiencing together, and get through and help each other out. We have the privilege to go elsewhere knowing that our weather systems are really changing and that communities are going to continue to be impacted. I’m in California now, and there’s a fire in central California at the moment that’s quite big. It’s strange to be acclimating to this as normal.
Speaking of that, like Asheville, for those that don’t know, people who live in Asheville are very proud to be Ashevillonians. I don’t know what you call yourselves, but like that is an identity, especially when you live, like when you’re in the mountains, and it’s a lifestyle and it’s an identity. Saunders and I have had so many great conversations, and I’ve been struggling, and I think I’ve talked about it on the podcast, and 1 or 2 episodes ago, just that it was a really hard transition for me from North Carolina back to Chicago.
I stopped in Indianapolis in the middle, and I ended up moving straight back to Chicago after doing a city POC or Proof of Concept. If you haven’t listened to the show before, a city Proof of Concept is where you go and spend 2 or 3 months to see if you want to stay in that city without committing to and moving all of your stuff and all that stuff. I moved all my stuff into storage and stayed in an apartment, and then I ended up moving back to Chicago.
It’s like one, we were talking just about grieving your old identity. Even though I didn’t love, like I loved my house in Charlotte. I built it. It was gorgeous. I had a great neighborhood with great neighborhoods, but like I didn’t have anybody else there. My friends and family were either in Chicago or Knoxville. It was after, like the last of the Mohicans, all left, I was there. I felt like by myself, I had 1 or 2 neighbors that I loved, but I wanted to be back in community with my people.
Saunders and I were talking about just how you almost have to grieve your old identity, even if you’re moving to something good. As people from Asheville have to move and uproot and go north or wherever they go, and lose that part of their identity, like that loss won your physical things when you’re losing them. Even if someone was like a city person moving to the suburbs after they got married and had kids or something. Can we talk a little bit? As a psychotherapist, what happens to our brains? How do you grieve that loss and like pivot in a way that is healthy?
The Emotional Toll of Moving: Grief & Loss
Talking about this, and you thought, “Let’s talk about this on the podcast.” I have worked a lot with grief and loss in the psychotherapy space. You do the Proof of Concept, you’re thinking about it for years, you build in time, or if you get a new job somewhere and you have to move, or if you’re impacted by weather or a disaster. No matter, I think the time that you have to prepare, there’s still a sense of transition that we go through. Our American culture, this is a broad statement, it doesn’t make a lot of space to process those transitions.
Just even grieving in general. Grieving in general, loss in general. I would put forth that moving it is a sense of loss of identity. Some anticipatory grief as you’re coming up to having moved. I know that I had to face of, “We’re doing this.” It might happen to somebody who is in a circumstance where they’re outside of their community when the loss happens. An inability to really have spaces where they can talk about it. You have to start right away. You don’t have the time and space or the relationship.
I can see that too. One of the things that I’ve talked about in the past is the fact that like when you are moving, one, if it’s not under good circumstances, like there’s a piece of you that when you get to that new place, like, “Do you want to go out by yourself to like meetups and networking events?” You’re tired, you’re in transition, you’re grieving. People don’t realize that transition it’s sad, but your brain doesn’t make that cutoff. You almost have to say like, “Here’s my old life. I’m sad about it.
It was great. Here are the pros and cons. It was awesome. Here’s my new life.” Make that transition. If you’re not feeling good about yourself or like what’s happened or how it went down or transpired, because even in good moves, I have a friend who’s in the process of a move right now, and his movers have taken advantage of them. We went through all of the things we looked it up on the FMCSA, and there was a variance in how much stuff he said he thought he was going to be able to get rid of and what he actually had. It was like a $5,000 swing.
Now all of a sudden, like he’s got this adventure going with his kids on the way back to Illinois from California, but he’s also dealing with the movers, and like trying to $5,000 is a big swing. When you’re moving, when you’re already paying like $16,000, $17,000 for moving, that’s a lot. He feels like he’s got a bad taste in his mouth. He’s going to get to Illinois and be pissed because it just sucks. Moving is hard under the best of circumstances. I don’t think people realize it is grief, and you have to process it.
We were talking about this show, like I recently rehomed that, like rejected me as a dog. I probably will talk more about this at some point, but she was a rescue. She came from a tough situation, and she really needed to be around people all the time. Even just me leaving to go to Pilates like I started changing my habits. I felt like I couldn’t even go to the grocery store because I would come home 30 minutes later and she would be so worked up because she was so scared to be alone, to go from an over-breeding situation to a rescue that had 25, 26 dogs and then to be alone was super scary for her, even though she was four years old.
For whatever reason, I triggered fear in her. I’m like the dog whisperer. Every dog or cat loves me. I’m very rarely, only one other time that I can think of, a dog hasn’t like completely warmed to me. It was heartbreaking, but she went to like the best possible situation. My friend and dog sitter, her parents have a Cavalier King Charles as well. They would always play together when she would go sit at Kelly’s, and her parents fell in love with my dog. I’ve seen them all together, and they play. Their eleven-year-old Cavalier is like it got a new spark in life.
That’s what you want. I use that example because not every good move is a good fit, but like if you can figure out a way to make the best of it, or that was a crappy situation. I thought I was going to have a dog. I was like, “I missed having that love, and I got rejected, but it wasn’t a good fit for me or for her. I had to do what was best for the dog.” Sometimes, too, when you do get into these situations, like I know you tried hard to stay in Asheville. There were a couple of different apartments that you looked at in a couple of different situations. When it came down to it, you ultimately had to make the decision to leave. Sometimes it’s just not a good fit.
Moving: A Top 5 Stressful Life Event
Sometimes it’s not a good fit, or it’s not the right time. I also want to pause it. The therapist in me wants to say that moving is one of the top five most stressful transitions. I think having to, as you talk about, figure out the place, figure out the cost. There’s like a bit of recovery, and then the energy output needed if you have to be in a new place to build that community and get out there. It’s an art of transition. I remember talking about California. There was a migration of Californians in the pandemic to different areas. I had five people on my block who had also moved to the Bay Area. We were able to process in our different ways some of the transition, but I remember a friend and fellow therapist saying to me.
That hits. Yeah.
There’s almost like this personification of a boo, and you connected your own identity with. I wonder for you, but for me, that transition was challenging because I didn’t realize how much of my personal identity was connected to being in San Francisco. I’m at a reorientation, and you know, I talked to my friends who are like lifelong New Yorkers or who moved there in the world, and I cannot imagine not being here.
I think for the people who leave, it’s hard to think about going back. I also want to talk a bit about the neurochemistry that can happen too, because I will say this with a caveat, but I’m not a neuroscientist, and I’m not a doctor or medical expert. What I do know is that there is very much a response in grief, and I would say in moving as well from our brain that the left side of our brain, the prefrontal cortex, is very the brain, and the right part of our brain is more the emotional processing.
In a move or in any loss or transition, a loss that triggers hormones that can trigger memory. It’s the loss of a relationship from death or like a chosen ending. You sometimes reprocess old memories, and that’s your brain adapting the story of the world as it was. You have the right side of the brain flooding the system with more emotions.
Your brain adapts by sometimes reprocessing old memories. Share on XIt’s so important to say that something isn’t there or that grief isn’t there or sadness, or if we can even set aside some time in our day, maybe it’s not when you’re walking into your 2:00 PM meeting to be together. Just realizing that that’s possibly happening within your nervous system, that thing time to you may need more sleep. You may in space some time to sort through and try and reach out to those that’s comforting or supportive, and also just be aware that it takes time.
It’s funny. I’ve spent all of that hits and all of that tracks with what I’m going through right now because I feel like I went through the six month funk, like everything I moved back home and it was exciting and I got to see all my friends and family and I’m not using a GPS anymore and all of those things. Six, seven months in, I’m like, “I’m back home.” Now I’m like re-identifying as a Chicagoan. I was going through all this stuff with Isabella, and my cousin and I share a therapist, and Sophie is her name, and she’s amazing.
My cousin, Annie, with whom I share a therapist with is literally going through a move, but she’s going to be doing two moves in three months. She’s building a house, but the people who were buying her house, like her house build, are delayed. By the way, if you’re ever building a house, just add 30% time to whatever they tell you it’s going to be ready, and that’s maybe going to be conservative. I’ve never heard that, like my build was like a month late, and that was like pretty much on time, is what everybody said.
Just always add three months to your move. The people who were buying her house had to register their kid for school, and they had to get into the house. She ended up having to move into a temporary house before she moves into the house in two months. Sophie was like, “Have you talked to Annie about what’s going on?” I was like, “No.” She’s going through a move. She’s got five kids and a husband and all that, like two dogs and a parakeet and like a million bunnies. She’s going through some stuff.
I’m like, “I cannot burden her with my thing.” I think that’s part of it, like you need to have a moving buddy. I always try to tell somebody to assign somebody, like “You’ve moved a lot. You could be my moving buddy because you know what it’s like and what to expect.” You have that person that you assign and say like, “I’m going to be going through some shit. Can you just if I call you and I’m just complaining or just need to sit in silence with you, can you just sit there with me?”
Sometimes know what you’re processing or what’s happening. You just know that you feel funky, and it sucks. You just want to feel like my cousin, Becky. I helped her move like her movers came. She was moving from Iowa. Her daughter Willow is my goddaughter. She’s getting baptized in a month or two weeks. I know. She’s got a 2-month-old and a 2-year-old and two dogs. Her husband is switching jobs.
He’s trying to work through this whole thing. We got to the house, and the movers had just unpacked everything. It was a corporate relocation. They were lucky enough to have these people come and unpack. They unpacked everything from the boxes and just left them in random rooms. It’s like you still have crap everywhere. Just even that transition of like trying to find a new place for all of your old stuff. That part’s the worst.
Unpacking & The Grace Period
I was just talking to a friend this week who moved into a new apartment a few months ago. She said, “There are still boxes in the kitchen, but they’re not mine.” The grace period to figure out what goes where. Can we just have compassion for ourselves to move it forward if you have the bandwidth? I will say one of the things I respected so much when I had to do that move, one friend said, “I want your bandwidth to pay it forward to somebody. You know how appreciative you would be if somebody showed up to have a glass of wine with you while you unpacked a box.” It’s just open the boxes.
My job, which I was very grateful for because it’s like 95 degrees out, and I was in the basement, where it was very cold and air-conditioned. The movers put all of her bins like her Christmas or Halloween decorations. She’s got a Ridiculous amount of Christmas and Halloween stuff, like Halloween is our favorite holiday, so they go overboard, or I would say under board, because like you can never have enough Halloween.
She had so many that I mean, there were probably 30 bins, and the company had taped every single bin and labeled the bins, but not with what was actually in there. It was weird. I went, and my dad ended up happening, coming down and helping me, but we had to take all the tape off of all of these bins, first of all, which I don’t know why they needed to tape them, because they were closed bins with handles and everything, but that’s a whole another story.
There was one bin that had like random shoes in it, not even pairs of shoes, just random single shoes. I knew there was another bin somewhere with the other half of the shoes, ankle weights, and Christmas stuff. I’m like, “Now I’m like sorting bins for her.” There’s no way she could have gotten through those 30, but we had to move them out of the way of the water main because the water company was coming on Monday, and they had to get into that room where the water gauge was. Like random things like that, like she is not one to ask for help, but like she definitely appreciated it.
I had this thought when you were talking. I almost feel like moving is like a riptide, where, like, the ocean or the lake or whatever you’re in might look really calm, but there’s this undercurrent that just feels like it’s taking you under, and everything else around you is like normal and static still. This riptide, like the riptide, can grab you and just pull you under, and you have to float through it.
Staying Organized & Asking For Help
I think there’s a moment, at least for me in this last move, where it’s the sense of overwhelm, perhaps, of like, how am I going to get this all done? Again, be gentle with yourself along the way. Something that I also wanted to mention is that it comes up as a fugue or a disorientation that might be. Lucky for you, you have created for your clients and audience members. Many systems that people can refer to to help them along.
Be gentle with yourself along the way. Share on XMaybe that needs to go on your calendar during the time when you’re moving, because things fall through the cracks and you’re not, and you may not be thinking as clearly. You’re not in your routine. For myself, it’s okay to ask for help. It’s okay to bring in other systems. Maybe I’ll tweak this differently. It’s a learning process, but I remember downloading templates to remember. It was a level of detail. I didn’t need all of it, but the basics of what I did were really helpful, and that helps me not to spend time creating that myself.
That’s awesome. I think that there’s so much to be said for giving yourself some grace, but also understanding that it’s going to be a tough time. The three months leading up to the move and then the like 6 to 12 months afterwards when you’re unpacking and trying to fit your round holes and square pegs. I think that there’s just a lot to be said for giving yourself that grace and like re-identifying if you’re moving home or changing.
Grieving your old identity and like giving that space, but then also like figuring out who you are in the new space. I think people who move a lot can do that and adapt to that quicker than people who don’t, but it’s no less traumatic in my opinion. I feel like you just get over it quicker sometimes, but sometimes you like in my case, I mean, this was my 20th move in 24 years, the six of America’s top cities. Even though I’m home and I am around my people, I’m still coming to terms with the fact that my moving journey is done.
I don’t think that I’m going to make another move again, like a big cross-country move. I think I want to settle in Chicago, and that’s a whole new identity for me, like somebody who’s rooted like that feels scarier than picking up and moving to a different state. Believe it or not, and figuring out who I am and being still. My nervous system is just very dysregulated, and I’m trying to get it back to balance.
I’m meditating every day and making sure I make space for meditating either once or twice a day, which it’s almost like I’m healing from surgery. If I feel tired, I know that that’s probably my nervous system saying like, “I need to slow down a bit. I’m still transitioning. I’m still biologically trying to adapt. Just take a twenty-minute nap. That’s been very helpful to not beat myself up for not being more productive. I think that recognizing it, like you said, knowing that this could be what is happening, sometimes, when you just are aware of it, it helps to deal with it.
“Why can’t this change?” or it’s like, “I’ve just been through a massive change.” I would imagine too that some materials, so to speak, to revisit if one wants to re-identify with. Yes, the sleep part, giving yourself your brain needs sleep. That is its rest. What is a very stressful experience in one’s life?
The beauty of what you bring to the conversation, I think you also are an executive coach, and you’re going to be doing a big offering. I think that too, a lot of people move and change jobs. That’s a whole different level. That’s two identities that are being thrown out in the wind. I know that you have not got all the details ironed out yet, but I do want to give the audience a little teaser about what you’re going to be doing and your coaching, and who would be a good fit for this? I think that once you get your program up and running, which I think is pretty close in the next 2 or 3 months.
Executive Coaching For Life’s Big Transitions
Yeah. As Mariette has been so kind to mention now, I have been in the world as a therapist up to this point, and I’ve been doing some executive coaching for the past few years, and that in love with ICF. With that, my vision right now is to help support people who are moving through some transition, reorienting to their values, and taking a pause in a moment of transition so that it’s an opportunity for more clarity and really taking advantage of intentionality with making the most of that moment. For folks who might be thinking of a career change or if you’re in a new role and you want to bring in some of your learnings, but amend some of the challenges you had for this new role, think of me in terms of your thought partner in that journey.
I love that. We will make sure that once you get all this up and running, we get it posted. Maybe we’ll do a live on social media if I can figure out how that works, and we’ll get you out to the group. This has been an awesome conversation, long overdue. I know we’ve been talking about it for a while. I have to say that this is Saunders’ first time on a podcast. You’re no longer a podcast virgin. Thank you so much for coming. This has been an awesome conversation.
Thank you. Folks can feel free to find me on LinkedIn, Saunders Moore, and send me a DM or a note, or Coaching@WseHeartTherapies.com to send me an email if you want to be in touch, and happy to set up an initial consult and see if we might be a good fit for some coaching services.
I love it. Thank you so much.
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About Saunders Moore
Saunders is a highly skilled leadership coach with over two decades of experience, combining her expertise as an ICF-trained executive coach, licensed psychotherapist, and strategic advisor to help clients achieve personal and professional growth. Driven by values of connection, adventure, and empathy, Saunders tailors her approach to support individuals and organizations in developing communication skills, self-compassion, and embracing growth through challenges.
With a diverse background in therapeutic approaches and executive coaching, Saunders focuses on individual and group development, incorporating psychology principles and a strengths-based approach to facilitate mindset shifts and transformational change. She works with leaders to build confidence, raise self-awareness, and change thinking patterns to enhance team culture and bottom-line results.
Saunders has extensive experience in coaching individual leaders, as well as facilitating group and team-building programs within organizations, creating more effective and collaborative workplace environments. Having lived and worked in the USA, Ecuador, and Spain, she brings a wealth of cultural understanding and adaptability to her consulting practice.
Holding an M.A. in Counseling Psychology and certified in various assessment tools such as Team Management Profile (TMP), Hogan Suite of Psychometrics, and Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction (MBSR), Saunders offers comprehensive support to her clients. In addition to her work as a leadership coach, she maintains a private practice as a licensed psychotherapist, providing counseling services to individuals residing in CA & NC.